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Philip Koop's avatar

I've been reading "The Price of Victory", the third and final volume of N. A. M. Rodger's magisterial "Naval History of Britain". (Those who loathe military history needn't fret; the book is mostly about politics, sociology, and economics. Not until Chapter 9 do we encounter anything on the nuts and bolts of the navy and even that is about ships and guns, not battles.)

The whole work is, as they say, fascinating from every point of view. But there is a particular passage I would like to quote here:

"[The] convergence of living standards, as poor people and poor countries caught up with the rich, was driven by free trade, and particularly by the steep decline in long-distance shipping costs, which halved between 1870 and 1913.

"British governments were pleased to see these changes, because they knew it was both just and wise that Britain should share her prosperity ... In an influential memorandum of 1907, Sir Eyre Crowe ... explained:

'It would ... be but natural that the power of a State supreme at sea should inspire universal jealousy and fear, and be ever exposed to the danger of being overthrown by a general combination of the world. Against such a combination no single nation could in the long run stand, least of all a small island Kingdom ... dependent for its food supply on overseas commerce. The danger can in practice only be averted ... on condition that the national policy of the insular and naval State is so directed as to harmonize with the general desires and ideas common to all mankind ... and closely identified with the primary and vital interests of a majority ..."

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Ziggy's avatar

Your argument deserves a counter. It only looked at the supply side. Demand is important, too.

Hegemons provide services that others desire. Even the more hateful hegemons promise the basic Hobbesian service: protection from the rapacity of all but the hegemon. (They don't always deliver even this basic service, but they do promise it.) And less hateful hegemons provide other services, which you described well.

Since China does not seem to be an option, there is still a demand for a relatively benevolent hegemon. The demand creates what may be a delusion. The rest of the world has been (all too) willing to believe that American craziness will pass: handing out Nobel Peace prizes in token of this. Even now, the EU, the Anglosphere, and the Asian democracies are acting as if their task is to wait out the crazy, rather than introduce their own hegemony. This delusion may be self-fulfilling. They might continue to force hegemony on the US, even if the US is no longer fit for it.

There is a lot of ruin in a nation.

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