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Karl Seeley's avatar

I have misgivings about the summarization function.

I see the value of being able to quickly grasp something about a scholarly paper without working laboriously through it. But I also see two concrete problems.

The first is about quality. I produced a PDF of a paper I'm working on, and Acrobat of course said, "This looks like a long paper. Can I summarize it for you?" This "long" paper was 16 pages of text, plus the source list, with no equations, never mind particularly challenging math, but I was curious what Adobe's LLM would do with my work.

The summary was competent _except_ where I was using language in creative ways. For instance, I described LLMs as a double-edged sword, but not in the conventional meaning of a thing that can be both good and bad, but as a thing that simultaneously makes it more important to know things and harder to acquire knowledge. The summary forced the metaphor back to the conventional "good and bad effects" usage of the image. Which makes all sorts of sense: my use of the phrase was specifically unlikely, so of course a probability engine would be unlikely to reproduce it.

The second is more fundamental. If the summary is enough, why are we writing papers and books in the first place? Why not just produce the summary? Save ourselves and eveyone else a lot of time, as well as the paper or electrons in printing or sharing a 30-page paper, or a 500-page book.

The meaning of a text is always generated by the interaction between the words that the author put on the page and the knowledge and perspectives that each reader brings with them as they read. So while there are core elements that should be in your summary and in mine if we are both competent readers of the text, there will be different emphases and framings, based on our different backgrounds.

And some of those things that will spark differently in your brain and mine are in parts of the text that don't make it into the summary. The more that we rely on machine-made summaries, the more we strip out the different meanings that would emerge if you and I actually read the original work.

And of course, scholarly papers already come with summaries produced by the author(s): the abstract. Once you read that, you know what question was asked, what answer was found, and hopefully something about how the question was addressed. Then a reader skilled in the discipline can flip through to the parts that are most important to them, or strap in and read through the whole thing.

What is the actual benefit of a summarization engine that irons out the most unique parts of text and gravitates toward a least-common-denominator understanding?

John Daschbach's avatar

I think I have noted that a scientific mentor to a successful scientist friend considered his greatest pedagogical accomplishment passing on that the critical factor in pushing the ball of human knowledge up the hill is asking the right questions.

On that front I need to revisit Claude code. The coding question answering ability of Google search is pretty impressive. In the last hour I asked "R side effects on matrices in lexical function called by apply" which when you regularly switch between languages is a question that happen and the AI summary (with links) not only said why what I was doing wasn't working (something I've done with Fortran common blocks and pointers or references in C, Lisp, Perl, ...) but explained how lexical coercion altered what the interpreter was using in it's symbol table during the vapply() call. However, precise syntax returned by the AI is often wrong, but decades of Unix (now Linux and Mac) use has my neural circuits enhanced by the Unix man page philosophy of "if you need an example perhaps you are below our target user" (of course it makes sense that the space is critical "{} \;" in "find . iname 'r*log' -mtime -5 -exec ./handle_logs.pl {} \;" but decades ago it wasn't the first thing I thought of). (Using Google search for regex patterns for Emacs compiled font-lock code is sub-optimal).

I'm retired but an example I think of from LLM coding AI is from many things I've done and published. The tasks are reasonably well defined: Take the experimental data files found in various arbitrary machine dependent data formats and consolidate into an HDF5 archive. Take model described in LaTeX file xxx.tex and write R code to extract and massage data sets then run model in lsode called from R with Fortran coded RHS and Jacobian in a multidimensional state vector walking optimization framework. Then create publication quality figures from the analysis. This isn't asking new questions, this is clearly defined grunt work. But if LLM AI can't do simple grunt work why would it result in thinking it is on the way to some magical AGI?

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