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Philip Koop's avatar

"even if you believe members of the other party are misguided or misinformed, you still regard them as fellow passengers on the same boat"

Ah, but you see, *your* end of the boat is sinking.

Manville & Ober's formulation is interesting because it is stronger than the familiar "republic without republicans" formulation. America still has lots of republicans, a majority I should think. Just not in the Republican party.

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Patrick Marren's avatar

To echo your remark of yesterday, "It IS depressing, isn't it?"

The way I describe it is, a democratic republic must rely on neighbors meeting over the fence after the election, and the loser (tending to some domestic chore like putting oil into her mower - in a healthy democracy, the political never utterly dominates the quotidian) saying to the winner, "Well, you guys won. Congratulations. Now let's see how you do."

Democrats until recently have done this, mostly. I remember 2004, when I was depressed at the outcome, cleaning out the garage in my red neighborhood in a blue state. I was consciously working through my disappointment, trying to work my way up to giving the winners the benefit of the doubt. After all, 2004 was the only time in the last 35 years when a Republican won more than 50% of the popular vote. And they were my neighbors, after all.

But now we are no longer neighbors. We don't live where they live. The people meeting over back fences are spinning each other up with Fox News/OAN/NewsMax blood libels. And we no longer meet with people who disagree with us either; and the few times we do, we disagree on the basic facts, not just goals or means. To very roughly paraphrase Lincoln, "The realities of neither side could be completely true; those of one side must needs be false."

One hopes that other passages of that speech are not also echoed: "Neither party expected for the [conflict] the magnitude or the duration which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of [any such fundamental] conflict might [not exist at all in reality]. Each looked for an easier triumph and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same [Constitution] and [honor the same Framers] and each invokes [their] aid against the other. It may seem strange that any [citizens] should dare to ask a just God's assistance in [dehumanizing their fellow citizens and targeting them with blood libels for short-term political gain], but let us judge not that we be not judged."

Yes, I hope, with Ebenezer Scrooge, that these are"shadows of the things that May be only, not shadows of the things that Will be."

But I'm depressed now, along with you.

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