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Sarora's avatar

"David Frum: ‘A way back is vital, not only for the sake of the repentant extremist, but for the security of normal society. We want to reduce, not multiply, the ranks of the radically disaffected. We want to recall them to democratic constitutionality, not cast them as enemies forever…"

They are not enemies. They're not even opponents. They're people with bad ideas. And these aren't new bad ideas that people should think about/deliberate. These are ideas that have been tried from time to time with awful results. The outcomes were bad because the ideas were poorly thought through and have been shown to be poorly thought through every time they were proposed. Their premise is all wrong, even if the logic or analysis might be impeccable. Frum should know this. He is instead blaming the people who want to shun those ideas from their sphere ("we want to ... not cast them as enemies"). He's calling them intolerant. Is that the best he's got? Chris Best should know that people here today will leave Substack -- I will leave -- the day it starts looking even remotely like a Nazi bar.

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Matt Yglesias notes that 'the current evidence that I have been excessively kind to Richard Hanania is a tweet in which I describe him as a “crazy person.”' But in the same tweet he also described Hanania as 'a smart guy with interesting things to say.'

The problem I have with this is that the actually existing Hanania that I have observed has mostly said dumb and boring things that weren't 'crazy' but merely malicious. This is not a case of uncovering the sordid past of someone we thought was a secular saint - as Yglesias has noted himself. So I will say what I said on the Musk-app: if you want to steelman Hanania, be specific. What is an example of a smart and interesting thing that Hanania has said? How representative is that of his writing and thought? Because I'm not going to waste my time doing that work for you.

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