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Jeff Luth's avatar

“ In [Clark’s] Malthusian world poor people died young and childless while the rich went and multiplied. The traits of the successful… were passed on…. “

Yikes, more self serving tech bro ideology. Throw in some skin color and the tech bros will lap it up.

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I am unclear what these other "improvements" - luxuries, cultural, and domination dimensions buy the population at large?

Luxuries include what - decorated shells, a metal ornament, perhaps some stick furniture, glass windows? Who benefited from these? Just a small minority.

Cultural changes. Organized armies to support an aristocracy that then conquered other lands and returned with slaves? Hereditary leadership to stymie social mobility? Invention of money. Class structure and mobility? Again, a minority benefited.

Domination. Well, the dominated lost out.

In terms of improving the lot of the greater population, it isn't clear to me what the benefits were.

Jared Diamond once claimed that the hunter-gatherer lifestyle was better for humanity than the invention of agriculture. It shows up in the diminished size of bodies, brain-to-body ratios, and the emergence of new diseases. Even today, we can see that agriculture, now including aquaculture, is hugely damaging to the local ecosystems, and more generally to the biosphere. We could do a lot better, but we don't.

I don't deny that humanity's lot, at least in some parts of the world, has vastly improved. I can be sure that food is always available to eat so that I don't experience lasting hunger. I have powerful toys like computers at my beck and call. My home is warm and dry. My bed is soft. Aches and pains have a number of remedies to alleviate any slight suffering. Generally, I feel safe (even here in gun-crazy USA). But if we look at the longer time frame, humanity may prove remarkably ephemeral. Just 40-80 millennia since the "cultural explosion", a tiny 4-8% of a 1 million year non-technological, non-cultural species survival, and 1/10th of that for species lasting 10 my. We are causing the 6th extinction of all other species on the planet. We have come close to devastating nuclear war at least twice in the 20th century. Our technology helps create pandemics. [It is just as well there is no "judgement day" for humanity]

You wrote an excellent book on how we might have used our technological gains to create a much better world...but we didn't. Right now, we are surely making things a lot worse, with just a few taking most of the surplus wealth and resources for themselves, and ensuring they benefit greatly while everyone else, including the species we share the planet with, does not. We may dream of starships in our future, but we may not have much of a future unless we can really remake our global culture to benefit all of humanity and the planet, too.

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